Today’s guest is Joey Isaacson, co-founder and CEO of Nook, a consumer savings app that connects everyday users to DeFi lending markets on Base. Joey spent five years at Coinbase leading design on earn, staking, and lending before building Nook to reach the 99.9% of people who’ve never touched DeFi. We talk about finding users on TikTok and Reddit instead of Crypto Twitter, why Nook won’t force-rebalance your funds, and how to build a business in consumer crypto.

Guest Links

• Joey Isaacson: https://twitter.com/joeyisaacson

• Nook: https://earnwithnook.com

• Nook Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nookearnapp/

Host Links

• Ryan Rodenbaugh: https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh

• Vaults.fyi: https://vaults.fyi

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Timestamps

• [00:00] Intro

• [00:13] What is Nook and why Joey built it

• [01:13] Who the actual Nook user is

• [04:50] Distribution: TikTok, Reddit, Meta, and creator partnerships

• [08:00] Short-form content strategy and the three-second hook

• [10:24] Onboarding, trust, and starting with $5

• [13:45] Progressive disclosure: reputation scores, auto-deposits, building trust over time

• [16:21] What builds trust fastest: referrals, cash bonuses, real faces

• [19:43] Coinbase and the earn landscape: feature vs. product

• [23:19] Risk after a wild weekend: Resolv, Drift, Kelp, and Aave liquidity

• [29:05] How rebalancing works: Privy, CCTP, individual wallets vs. supervaults

• [33:21] Business model: curator revenue shares, yield compression, and exchange fees

• [40:55] Magic wand: cross-chain movement and insurance

• [44:29] Roadmap: multiple positions, multiple assets, OpenCover coverage

Today’s guests are Arthur Breitman (co-founder of Tezos), Owen (Hasheur) Simonin (CEO of Meria), and Dmitriy Kovalevskiy (founder of Hanji). Recorded live at TezDev 2026 in Cannes, the panel covers why crypto yields remain structurally higher than traditional markets, the real obstacles keeping fintechs from offering DeFi yield, and whether tokenized commodities or tokenized stocks will drive the next wave of adoption.

Guest Links

• Arthur Breitman: https://twitter.com/ArthurB

• Tezos: https://tezos.com

• Etherlink: https://etherlink.com

• Owen Simonin (Hasheur): https://twitter.com/PowerHasheur

• Meria: https://meria.com

• Dmitriy Kovalevskiy: https://twitter.com/dmitrytez

• Hanji: https://hanji.io

Host Links

• Ryan Rodenbaugh: https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh

• Vaults.fyi: https://vaults.fyi

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Timestamps

• [00:00] Introductions

• [00:33] What’s still holding fintechs back from offering DeFi yield

• [02:02] Why crypto yields are structurally higher than traditional markets

• [03:35] Two types of yield seekers: high yield chasers vs. reliability seekers

• [04:26] Celsius, Resolv, and the new wave of on-chain risk

• [07:08] Fixed-term lending: is there real demand beyond institutions?

• [09:28] RWAs in the earn stack: commodities vs. real estate vs. T-bills

• [12:06] Retail is attention-driven: the case for adding oil and macro assets

• [13:25] Collateral diversity and why it starts with user demand

• [14:27] The Robinhood of DeFi yield and Meria’s approach

• [16:07] Regulator conversations: custody, staking risk categories, and MiCA

• [19:46] Who are your users in two years? B2B2C, crypto natives, and new populations

• [23:53] Etherlink’s DeFi growth and vaults.fyi integration

• [24:04] Stablecoins as the onramp: why DEX trading will be easier than brokerage trading

• [25:25] Tokenized stocks: the NVIDIA problem and long-tail assets

• [29:23] Building the everything-app vs. staying specialized

• [31:30] What each panelist is most excited about in crypto right now

Guest Links

• Jeremiah Smith: https://twitter.com/itsJeremiahS

• OpenCover: https://opencover.com

• Nexus Mutual: https://nexusmutual.io

Host Links

• Ryan Rodenbaugh: https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh

• Vaults.fyi: https://vaults.fyi

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Timestamps

• [00:00] Intro and OpenCover’s founding story

• [03:54] The “DeFi mullet” app that preceded OpenCover

• [06:40] Celsius, BlockFi, and why self-custody won

• [08:29] What OpenCover does and doesn’t underwrite

• [10:26] Yield compression and the challenge of scaling DeFi yield

• [13:01] How much DeFi capital is actually insured today

• [16:20] Why DeFi insurance adoption is so low

• [19:45] Tranching, TrueFi, and the structural shortage of conservative capital

• [22:14] OpenCover’s two verticals: protocol risk and transaction risk

• [26:01] How covered vaults work: stake, cover on, unstake, cover off

• [28:56] Premium streaming, rate dynamics, and whether insurance only works in high-rate environments

• [33:13] The Resolv USR fallout and contagion risk across Morpho vaults

• [34:46] The xUSD / Stream Finance claims payout, end to end

• [37:13] How underwriting and repricing works for Morpho vaults

• [40:00] Risk ratings vs. risk transfer: why insurance beats scores

• [43:37] The Nexus Mutual underwriting stack: syndicates, capacity, and claims

• [49:51] Who insures the insurers? Smart contract risk on the covered vault itself

• [51:13] What success looks like: embedded protection as the default

Today’s guest is Octave Mesnard, Head of Strategy and Consumer Products at Jumper Exchange. We discuss Jumper’s evolution from a thin cross-chain swap interface into a full on-chain consumer hub, the real challenges of building consumer DeFi products at the right time, and why Octave thinks the multi-chain future will consolidate around far fewer chains than anyone expected.

GUEST LINKS:

• Octave Mesnard: https://twitter.com/octavionotpunk

• Jumper Exchange: https://jumper.exchange

• Jumper Exchange on X: https://x.com/JumperExchange

• Jumper Earn: https://jumper.exchange/earn

Learn how Jumper leverages the vaults.fyi API: https://docs.vaults.fyi/general/case-studies/jumper-earn

HOST LINKS:

• Ryan Rodenbaugh: https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh

• Vaults.fyi: https://app.vaults.fyi/

• Build with our APIs: https://docs.vaults.fyi

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TIMESTAMPS:

[00:00] Introduction

[00:39] What was your initial foray into crypto?

[02:17] Are there any parallels between catastrophe bonds and crypto insurance?

[05:43] Tell us about Valha and Kook Exchange — what did you set out to solve?

[09:10] You had both an API and a consumer interface — was that intentional?

[12:05] Before joining LiFi, you were already working with them. How did that come about and how did you end up joining?

[13:34] When you joined, did you already have a vision for what you wanted Jumper to become?

[15:23] How do you think about where Jumper goes from here — browser, desktop, mobile?

[19:43] Does the Robinhood comparison resonate — one place where users manage everything?

[22:07] Who actually is the “normie” user in crypto?

[23:42] So Jumper started as a thin layer on LiFi’s stack — is Earn the attempt to thicken that?

[26:21] How have you thought about curation on Jumper Earn — what gets listed and what stays out?

[29:10] How do you think about risk scoring more broadly across DeFi?

[34:46] What are your concerns around RWAs coming into DeFi?

[37:28] How do you view the competitive landscape for swapping and bridging today?

[40:22] How did you think about working with vaults.fyi and how do you approach partnerships generally?

[42:01] Outside of your role at Jumper, what’s catching your attention in DeFi right now?

[44:22] You work in interoperability — do you have a contrarian view on the multi-chain future?

[48:58] What is the origin of

GUEST LINKS:

• Sébastien Derivaux: https://twitter.com/SebVentures

• Steakhouse Financial: https://twitter.com/SteakhouseFi

• Steakhouse Financial Website: https://steakhouse.financial

HOST LINKS:

• Ryan Rodenbaugh: https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh

• Vaults.fyi: https://vaults.fyi

• Vaults.fyi X: https://x.com/vaultsfyi

• Wallfacer X: https://x.com/wallfacerlabs

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TIMESTAMPS:

• [00:00] Introduction & Background

• [02:20] MakerDAO’s Early RWA Experiments: Société Générale, Centrifuge & Lessons Learned

• [10:02] The Economics of RWAs: Cost Savings, Efficiency & What Actually Works On-Chain

• [16:31] Why Crypto Needs RWAs: Yield Sources, Composability & Liquidity Challenges

• [24:20] The mF-ONE Controversy: What Happened & How to Think About Private Credit Risk

• [31:00] Commercial Break

• [34:17] Risk Management Philosophy: Lenders vs. Investors & Diversification Strategy

• [42:46] Comparing RWA Risk to Crypto Collateral & Evolution of Market Perception

• [48:53] Building Steakhouse: Three Business Pillars & Becoming a Morpho Curator

• [51:45] The Future of Curation: Market Structure, Competition & Traditional Finance Entry

• [57:08] Vault Governance: Non-Custodial Design & How Morpho Captures Value

• [59:58] Grove Protocol & Sky’s Star System: Decentralized Allocation Strategy

• [1:04:33] Looking Ahead: Term Lending, Yield Curves & 10-Year Vision

GUEST LINKS:

• Andrew Keys: https://x.com/AK_EtherMachine

• The Ether Machine: https://x.com/TheEtherMachine

• DARMA Capital: https://x.com/darmacapital

HOST LINKS:

• Ryan Rodenbaugh: https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh

• Vaults.fyi: https://vaults.fyi

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TIMESTAMPS:

• [00:18] Andrew's Background & Early Ethereum Journey

• [05:39] ETFs vs Digital Asset Treasuries (DATs)

• [08:15] North Star Metric: Ether Concentration Per Share

• [09:54] Institutional Investor Education & Market Response

• [10:25] Ethereum's Evolving Narrative & Stablecoin Product-Market Fit

• [12:40] Ethereum's Market Dominance in High-Quality Liquid Assets

• [16:57] DARMA Capital's Institutional Staking Business

• [20:35] Why Go Public: Philosophy vs Opportunity

• [22:46] Regulatory Environment & Long-Term Vision

• [23:54] Clean Corporate Structure Strategy

• [28:10] The Future of Altcoin DATs & Market Sustainability

• [29:36] Lessons Learned: From Naive Decentralization to Meeting People Where They Are

Rob shares insights on building automated asset-liability matching systems and his vision for bringing TradFi capital into crypto through superior yield optimization.

GUEST LINKS:

• Rob Montgomery: https://twitter.com/RobAnon94

• InfiniFi: https://infinifi.xyz

• InfiniFi on X: https://x.com/infiniFi_

HOST LINKS:

• Ryan Rodenbaugh: https://x.com/ryanrodenbaugh

• Vaults.fyi: https://vaults.fyi

• vaults.fyi on X: https://x.com/vaultsfyi

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TIMESTAMPS:

• [01:01] InfiniFi's Timeline & Rapid Growth

• [02:47] Capital Composition - Retail vs Institutional

• [05:52] What is InfiniFi?

• [08:00] How Duration Users Get Higher Yields

• [09:31] Tranching Analogy & How It Works

• [10:33] Portfolio Selection & Governance Process

• [17:58] Complex Governance Structure Vision

• [21:24] Risk Assessment & Due Diligence Process

• [23:34] Duration Asset Adoption in Crypto

• [27:59] The Pendle Relationship & Symbiosis

• [29:38] Background on Resonate vs Pendle

• [31:03] Why Haven't Competitors Built This?

• [33:14] Network Effects & Defensibility

• [34:35] RWA Vision & Tokenizer Strategy

• [39:14] Revenue Model & Performance Fees

• [40:54] What Haven't I Asked About?

• [41:22] Success Metrics Beyond TVL

GUEST LINKS:

• John Morrow: https://x.com/jmo_mx

• Holt Butler: https://x.com/0xhotl

• Gauntlet: https://x.com/gauntlet_xyz

• https://gauntlet.xyz

• Gauntlet USD Alpha: https://app.gauntlet.xyz/vaults/gtusda

HOST LINKS:

• Ryan Rodenbaugh: https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh

• Vaults.fyi: https://vaults.fyi

• gtUSDa on vaults.fyi: https://app.vaults.fyi/opportunity/base/0x000000000001CdB57E58Fa75Fe420a0f4D6640D5

• Wallfacer: https://x.com/wallfacerlabs

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TIMESTAMPS:

• [00:13] Gauntlet's Evolution: From Risk Models to Vault Management

• [07:14] Defining the Vault Curator Role

• [14:50] Behind the Scenes: Vault Management Operations

• [17:54] Aera Protocol & Gauntlet USD Alpha Launch

• [25:20] Institutional vs Retail Capital Allocation

• [33:04] Customer Relationships & Platform Ownership

• [36:56] Real World Assets & Cross-Chain Strategies

• [46:25] DeFi Lending Competition: Morpho vs Aave

• [49:26] Gaming, Tokenized Assets & Future DeFi Use Cases

GUEST LINKS:

• Ivan Kozlov: https://x.com/Iv4n_Ko

• Resolv Protocol: https://x.com/ResolvLabs

• Resolv Journey (Roadmap): https://resolv.xyz/journey

HOST LINKS:

• Ryan Rodenbaugh: https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh

• Vaults.fyi: https://twitter.com/vaultsfyi

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TIMESTAMPS:

[00:00] Background & Journey from Nuclear Physics to DeFi

[03:15] Why TradFi Products Fail in Crypto

[09:39] What is Resolv Protocol

[14:56] Tranching Mechanics & Risk Segregation

[24:27] Market Segmentation & Risk Profiles

[29:53] Distribution Strategy & Go-to-Market

[40:01] Multi-Chain Expansion Philosophy

[48:17] Future Yield Sources Beyond Delta Neutral

[54:26] Five-Year Vision & Market Size Predictions

Guests:

• DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad

• Nomatic: https://twitter.com/nomaticcap

• The Edge Podcast: https://x.com/edge_pod

• The Edge Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz

Host:

• Ryan Rodenbaugh: https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh

• Vaults.fyi: https://vaults.fyi

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Show Notes:

[00:00] Intro & Origins

[05:02] Nomatic's Backstory

[10:33] The Bitcoin Foundation

[16:14] Modern Blockchain Philosophy

[24:59] Ethereum Sentiment & Conviction

[31:26] Ethereum's Path Forward

[37:45] The User Advantage

[40:39] Storytelling vs. Reality Problem

[46:39] DeFi Evolution: The Curator Model

[55:20] Portfolio Examples & Strategy

[1:00:40] DeFi Tokens in Top 20 Problem

[1:11:25] Future Bets & Trends

[1:21:21] App Layer Thesis

[1:26:29] Mispriced Opportunities

[1:27:32] Wrap-up & Where to Find Them

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Today’s guest is Dion Chu, Co-founder and CEO of Term Finance, a fixed-rate lending protocol. Term has raised over 7mm led by Electric Capital. Their token just recently went live and is trading on top exchanges like Kraken

• Ryan: https://x.com/RyanRodenbaugh

• Wallfacer: https://x.com/wallfacerlabs

• Vaults.fyi: https://x.com/vaultsfyi

• Dion Chu: https://x.com/dionchu

• Term Labs: https://x.com/term_labs

Timestamps:

• 00:09 - Introduction to Dion Chu and Term Finance

• 00:28 - What Term Finance does and what makes it unique in the lending space

• 01:04 - The auction mechanism and insights that led to Term Finance's approach

• 06:04 - How treasury auction mechanisms were adapted for DeFi

• 09:02 - Potential for collusion in auction markets 10:29 - Supply and demand dynamics in Term Finance's market

• 13:02 - Approaches to cultivating more lending capital

• 15:03 - Impact of low variable rates across DeFi on Term's rates

• 18:18 - Overview of Term's product suite (auctions, blue sheets, meta vaults)

• 21:43 - Collateral preferences and makeup from borrowers

• 23:26 - Cross-chain expansion and differences between Ethereum and Avalanche

• 27:14 - Selling points for institutional capital and family offices

• 28:56 - Security benefits of Term's architecture

• 31:18 - Token launch learnings and advice for other founders

• 36:24 - Next innovations and improvements planned for Term

• 37:31 - Original vision of success and how goals have evolved

• Nik: https://x.com/nomos_paradox

• Chronicle: https://x.com/ChronicleLabs

• Ryan: https://twitter.com/RyanRodenbaugh

• Wallfacer: https://x.com/wallfacerlabs

• vaults.fyi: https://twitter.com/vaultsfyi

Timestamps:

• 00:00 Introduction to Nik Kunkel and Chronicle Labs

• 00:19 Nik's journey from IBM Hyperledger to MakerDAO

• 03:27 Joining MakerDAO and the origins of SAI

• 04:57 Early challenges with stablecoins and off-ramping

• 06:54 The early days at MakerDAO and infrastructure challenges

• 10:06 Introduction to Chronicle Labs and its origins

• 14:32 Oracle scalability challenges and solutions

• 17:05 Validator roles and the importance of identity

• 20:44 How validators collect and report data across protocols

• 21:58 How apps and chains choose Oracle providers

• 27:24 Metrics for comparing Oracle providers

• 30:24 Understanding Oracle business models

• 37:03 Different pricing approaches for Oracle services

• 40:33 Chronicle's focus on real-world assets (RWAs)

• 46:21 Fungible vs. non-fungible RWAs and growth potential

• 51:11 Chronicle's role in the Spark Grand Prix and Verified Asset Oracle

• 55:32 Future evolution of the Oracle space

• 58:37 The Chronicle points program and staking

• Sam: https://x.com/hexonaut

• Spark: https://x.com/sparkdotfi

• Ryan: https://twitter.com/RyanRodenbaugh

• Wallfacer: https://x.com/wallfacerlabs

• vaults.fyi: https://twitter.com/vaultsfyi

Timestamps: 

• 00:00: Introduction and Sam's Journey to MakerDAO

• 03:05: Idealism vs. Practicality in Protocol Evolution

• 09:10: The SubDAO Model and Spark's Genesis

• 15:30: The Role of Spark in the Sky Ecosystem

• 18:50: Spark Liquidity Layer Innovation

• 24:10: The Banking Analogy and Value Distribution

• 29:10: The Stablecoin Landscape and Tether's Dominance

• 34:19: Cross-Chain Expansion and Bridge Infrastructure

• 36:40: Competitive Dynamics in DeFi

• 39:40: RWA Integration and the Grand Prix

• 45:40: Spark's Future and Value Capture

• 49:50: Closing Remarks and Ways to Follow

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Ryan chats with Luca Prosperi about reimagining the financial stack from first principles, why separation between money creation and distribution matters, and how M^0's enables both DeFi protocols and fintech apps to build better products.

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• https://x.com/LucaProsperi

• https://x.com/m0foundation

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• https://twitter.com/RyanRodenbaugh

• https://warpcast.com/ryanrodenbaugh.eth

Timestamps

• 00:00 - Luca's crypto red pill

• 03:03 - The philosophy of money

• 07:21 - Understanding modern banking

• 12:14 - Reflections on working with MakerDAO

• 17:24 - The current state of RWAs

• 21:52 - The belief behind M^0

• 30:28 - $M's role as wholesale money

• 38:04 - How M^0 manages collateral

• 41:40 - Composability and $M

• 44:47 - M^0's pitch for GTM success

• 47:37 - The economics of stablecoin issuers

• 53:58 - M^0's two token governance model

• 58:32 - The economics of M^0

• 1:00:52 - Levelling up crypto monetary infrastructure

• 1:04:27 - Closing predictions on DeFi

Ryan Rodenbaugh chats with Michael Bentley about reimagining DeFi infrastructure through modular design, what’s driving the protocol’s high yields, and why more builders are choosing Euler as their foundation.

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• https://x.com/euler_mab

• https://x.com/eulerfinance
  
  

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Timestamps

00:00 - Michael’s background

05:22 - Getting into crypto

08:32 - The vaults.fyi app

09:17 - Euler’s culture 

12:12 - Screening for culture fits

14:17 - Sticking around after the Euler hack

17:00 - Euler v2 vs Euler v1

19:49 - Euler as primitive infrastructure

28:54 - The case for alternative collateral 

31:28 - Why Euler is a RWA project

35:58 - Bootstrapping stablecoins with modular DeFi protocols

39:37 - What’s driving Euler’s high yields

42:51 - Balancing incentives for a mature token

46:05 - Euler’s metrics for success

49:30 - Why don’t protocols just launch on Euler?

52:48 - DeFi and the Lindy effect

55:04 - What’s next for Euler

59:37 - Realizing Euler’s vision

They discussed how the Entropy team is accelerating the @arbitrum DAO, the current OpCo proposal, & the world of decentralized governance. 

Timestamps

00:00 - What is Entropy Advisors?
01:59 - Why Arbitrum?
05:54 - Who contributes to Arbitrum today?
08:02 - Which Arbitrum competitors stand out?
12:11 - Offchain Labs’ influence on Arbitrum
13:56 - What does OpCo address?
16:10 - How OpCo has been received
18:35 - Analogous structures & OpCo’s role
21:40 - In-house vs service providers
23:07 - How L2s are valued
25:33 - Arbitrum DAO’s business model
28:25 - Matt’s thoughts on the Superchain narrative
37:02 - What should L2s focus on?
41:16 - Arbitrum’s homegrown success stories
46:37 - Focusing on Ethereum vs other L1s
51:13 - Arbitrum and L2 interoperability
53:18 - Friction points for users
54:58 - Getting people onchain & closing thoughts

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• https://x.com/MattFiebach

• https://x.com/EntropyAdvisors

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They discussed @0xFluid’s approach to DeFi, @Instadapp’s evolution, and more!

Timestamps

• 00:00 - DMH’s background

• 04:40 - What is Fluid?

• 07:09 - Instadapp’s evolution

• 09:05 - Fluid’s design

• 10:40 - How the Liquidity Layer works

• 12:35 - Risk in Fluid’s ecosystem

• 14:55 - Fluid’s competitive rates 

• 16:03 - How Fluid utilizes capital 

• 24:51 - Building on the Liquidity Layer

• 29:10 - Collaborating with other protocols

• 33:00 - Fluid’s biggest competitor 

• 35:35 - Rapid growth without token incentives

• 37:19 - Maintaining APY with high TVL

• 39:45 - Fluid’s approach to L2s

• 41:41 - The evolution on $INST

• 43:19 -  Establishing Fluid as a “blue-chip” protocol

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They discussed @yearn's OG culture, its evolution, future direction, and explored Facu's builder collective @built_by_mom.

• 00:00 - Facu’s background

• 03:30 - Yearn’s OG culture

• 05:00 - Outcomes of pseudo anonymity 

• 07:06 - Yearn’s structure today

• 09:51 - How Yearn’s culture has evolved

• 12:00 - DeFi Summer memories

• 13:19 - Maintaining Yearn’s reputation

• 14:40 - Avenues for growth

• 16:23 - L2 expansion

• 19:57 - Alternative L1s

• 21:14 - What is Mom?

• 23:20 - What is Ajna?

• 26:20 - Choosing who to work with

• 27:57 - Mom’s marketing style

• 34:12 - Misconceptions about working in DeFi

• 36:00 - Mom’s products

• 41:36 - What’s next

Links: 

https://x.com/saltyfacu https://x.com/built_by_mom https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh https://twitter.com/wallfacerlabs https://twitter.com/vaultsfyi

00:00: Introduction 

00:40: Defining a modern crypto wallet 

06:00: Views on crypto + social 

09:15: Defining Zerion's target users 

11:40: Wallets, wallets, wallets 

19:30: The evolving business of Zerion 

24:25: ZERO and improving the onchain user experience 

30:25: Building an ecosystem around ZERO and attracting content creators 

41:10: Building on the @zksync Zk Stack 

48:00: The business of ZERO 

52:00: Onchain identity / Zerion DNA 

Learn more: 

Zerion, Evgeny, and Zero

• https://x.com/zerion

• https://x.com/evgeth_

• https://x.com/zerodotnetwork

Wallfacer Labs and Ryan

• https://x.com/wallfacerlabs

• https://x.com/RyanRodenbaugh/